Jim
I really can’t take it anymore.
I mean I regret not buying your first version of mini site creator.

Now I have lose money waiting for version 2 to arrive.

I need it and got to have it …
Big Ed

I think mini sites are great.

Say you have a problem – for example, today I have to write back cover copy for a book. So I’m going to search for that subject online.

In this case, all I need is an article, but if I was going to start a business writing back cover copy for books I would be THRILLED to hit a one page sales letter that quickly outlined what they were offering (which would likely include exactly what I was looking for), set me up with some cool bonuses and allow me to download the lot at the touch of a button.

Just because mini sites may not be offering what “Bob” wants to buy doesn’t mean they’re not a viable shopping tool for millions of people.

The mini site is a great tool, however you can use it for good or for bad so Bob shoul search his mind — does he want to use it for good or for bad? He seems to be confused in his own thoughts.

This is my own opinion: maybe Bob has no idea what Jim Edwards’ mini sites are or he does not want (or can’t) invest in one! Who knows what his gripe is all about?????

He needs help.

How can we help him ???

Maybe send him the course free???

May you and all of your loved ones have a great day!

Jerry V

I gotta tell you that I do not agree one bit. I am a very senior senior and getting help with this newfangled stuff is not easy. But with Jim’s patient teaching I learned to put up mini sites. I expect to be doing something really concrete with it soon. I think young Jim is the cat’s meow! I am not a gullible person and if I never make a dime with my mini sites,(although I expect to) I have the satisfaction of learning how to do it. Bob sounds like a sour lemon to me.
Betty

Dear Jim,

I got your email today, so here is my response.

I bought your mini-site creator course so three years ago maybe (sorry, don’t remember already). I have to tell you and this Bob-guy that I use these “technics” in many ways with great success.
I could quit from my formal job, I am an independent internet entrepreneur now, and all this started with the mini sites (almost:) ).

I know that the Hungarian language is very strange for all who are not Hungarian, but you can check two of my sites which I started at 2005 with the stuff you taught me.
These are:

http://www.potencia.co.hu
http://www.szepmell.hu

These two sites create me a full time income! So I am a real person, with real income from internet marketing, with great enthusiasm for this type of business and I have a “micro-company”.

So I think that you have to teach what you taught moreover further because I know that there are a lot of people who are looking for such information and can use it for their own success.

Best regards,

Peter Horvath

Hi,

I have “Version 1 of the Mini-Site package”…

Before this first version, I was a newbie…
This first version is VERY GOOD ! Now, I can build
mini-sites for others…

I’ll purchase the version 2. Why ? Because JIM is a GREAT coach !

Didier from France !

Bob and Jim,
Don’t let this bitter person keep you (or your customers) from continuing to provide such quality products. I struggled and struggled to figure out how to create webpages so I could have a good webpage for my church (doing this for my minister) where people could find out about what was going on and then what each teleseminar we provided was about – and then I found your course on mini-sites. I was so upset because they are NOT just mini-sites, you can create a really functional “webpage” using each “mini-site” and “links” – once I took your course, I was rolling out gangbusters putting up information and audio files for my minister. That is not “out to make money” – it was providing a service to people who were not able to get to church or were not in the same geographic location. Your mini-site creator course saved me hundreds of hours and I can’t thank you enough.
Terrie

Can Bob point us in the direction of his REAL company with REAL etc etc. He’s REALLY not to be taken seriously, Jim.

You do a great service for all of us who are working from home without an IT department’s support and we all trade at our own level and in the areas that interest us or are passionate about.

I never get that Monday morning feeling ‘cos I love my work!

Keep going and when is V2 being released?

Anne

Which Other Technical Engineering Manager, Supervisor or Engineering Personel (After they get kicked from work after 18 years of service) wants to learn ABC about Money Making Websites And Figure Out All The Key Elements like:
1… How to register a domain name and where?
2… Which Hosting to use?
3… What is FTP and how to upload Websites?
4… What are the key elements of Sales letter?
5… What is Autoresponder and How to set it up?
6… How to set up download links?
7… How to set up at Click Bank?
8… How to set up your own Blog?
9… How to set up Autoresponder system?
10.. And More And More And Much Much More

Guys, Jim didn’t pay me a penny to write all about it. I bought from him and Mike Stewart Mini Site – Platinum and Web site Vide Course – 1 and bought Professional Microphone and systems. Jim’s straight forward to the point cut and dry approach and Knowledge gave me step by step coaching and I am greatful to him. He is my coach and mentor.
If you want to create your own products and wants to earn money then it’s your choice to learn from Mini Site Creator Package and kick start your own wealth creation cycle.

Hi Jim,

Now, I gotta tell you. I am 73 years old and a couple of years ago all I could do with a computer was to turn it on.

Lucky for me the first site I found was your course on “How to Create Your Own Real Money-Making Mini-Sites”.
You not only taught me how to create mini sites but how to use them, how to find a host, how to use an autoresponder, and so much more.

Not only that but on the many occasions when I asked for help you always answered me quickly and in great detail.

Thank You so much Jim,

Bette Carmer

Hi Bob,

Interesting that all you could see in Jim’s mini-site directory is what you consider to be get-rich-quick type businesses that are no more than snake-oil salesman. I wonder how deeply you looked into the many websites listed in that directory.

I also find it interesting that you apparently believe that the only credible way to sell online could not possibly include the use of mini-sites, since it appears you believe that only “nationally known, reputable” companies know how to sell quality products that truly serve their customers’ needs online. (Hmm…what was the dot com bust all about anyway??)

IMHO, it kind of all speaks to your mindset. What you look for is what you will see and attract. Unfortunately, we’ve probably all been duped by an online scammer at one time or another. That can be a valuable learning experience that teacheds us (hopefully) discernment. It’s a valuable lesson to learn, given the world we live in. However, it clearly (from where I sit anyway) isn’t reality to believe that everyone who is running an online business is a con artist either. But if that’s what you expect, that’s all you’ll see and attract to yourself.

On the oppisite end of the spectrum, however, I am an advid student of Jim’s teachings and quite honestly find him to be THE online marketing “guru” who is of high integrity and far more concerned with people actually taking action and benefiting from what he is teaching (because he knows that it does in fact works) than he is about cleaning out his students’ bank accounts to line his own pockets. In case you don’t know his story or current business situation, he doesn’t need to work another day in his life if he doesn’t want to. He’s in that situation because of the value he constantly provides, Not from a hit-and-run scam training.

But of course, it is far easier to be critical and impute a “wicked” motive, since that means you don’t have to do anything to acually find success. You can just moan and groan in a scarcity mindset and do or contribute nothing of value to yourself and others. Of course, by spreading that negative and self-defeating mindset to others, you actually discourage them from actually taking action and reaching their goals. Maybe a second look at your assumptions is warrented here?

Though I honestly don’t have the time at the moment (since I am booked solid in my own business, thanks to using Jim’s techniques and using mini-sites as the core of my high-quality, legitimate service-based business) to search for some “nationally known, reputable company using mini-sites” to satisfy your perceived standard of what is credible, I will invite you to check out my website, since I used Jim’s methods and my own business is exploding this year because of it. I also welcome any feedback that demonstrates that I have I fallen into the snake oil category, since I have never heard any such feedback (not even once) from any of my clients.

Please be willing to take a second look and challenge your own beliefs about what mini-sites are all about. You may be delighted at what you find and how it could really turn your own online experience around for the better!

Wishing you much success online!

Hi Jim,

I have had my site up for several years. I can’t say that it made me a million dollars, but it has been there for customers to find me and for my company to have an Internet presence. I built it when I couldn’t afford to pay anyone to do it for me, and to give me an opportunity to learn how to build web sites. I’m not sure if you are aware, but I built another one as well using Mini Site Creator and you can find it at http://www.greattranscriptions.com/resources.htm. I put it up as my resource page for my transcription services web site.

If the information in the Mini Site Creator did nothing else for me, it showed me “how” a web site is created so that I understood the basics and could go from there. I love the product and highly recommend it. It’s an easy way for anyone to build an Internet presence and to build an Internet business.

As long as Bob keeps focusing on what Bob doesn’t like the world will keep showing Bob more of what Bob doesn’t like!

Fact is mini sites and long sales letter copy is responsible for billions of dollars not just to small one man shows like myself but to HUGE multi national companies like:

Guthy-Renker
American Express
and 100 other companies you know and love.

Hell MOST large well know companies (Household names) use some form of direct response marketing to sell their goods and services. Sure they may not have a mini site up on the web but they send out millions of letter in the mail.

All a mini site is, is a “house” for your direct response sales letter… Bob is missing the point big time. If Bob would spend some time studying copy writing and the psychology behind it he would understand how and why mini sites are so effective.

Not everyone lies and not everyone sells get rich quick schemes…

Bob should do better research before he gets his soap box out. Bob said “Show me ONE nationally known, reputable company using mini-sites and I’ll STFU.

Now that I have shown Bob two nationally known companies who use “The spirit of mini sites” to sell their goods maybe he will keep his word and STFU!

Love ya Jim,

Although we have never met or spoken, your products and information have helped me become free!

Andy

P.S. Hope this makes you laugh! I have personally found, when I stopped focusing on all the things I did not like and started taking action on becoming what I wanted to be like, live became really fun! ;o)

Gosh what crap spelling!
This moron cant even write ‘proper’ – so I’m going to set up a ‘Spell Your Way To Happiness’ mini site just for him!

PS I was one of those traditional web muppets who spent $15,000 on their damned web site with a clueless web developer who knows nothing about marketing.
WHAT A WASTE!
I am getting so much more targeted response from my sites now that they are mini.

All the best with your spelling, pal!

Hi Jim,

I gotta tell you that guy is full of crap.

The guy can look at the following Mini-Sites and read
a couple of articles. There are more Mini-Sites out there but I think this gets the point across.

Milwaukee’s Best Light
http://www.milbestlight.com

Volkswagan for their Passat.
http://www.vw.con/passat/in/us

Cable TV, Comcastic
http://www.comcastic.com

A New York Times article under Technology
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/technology/19google.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Google Program Enlists Mini-Sites As Selling Tool For Advertisers, published September 19,2007

Yahoo Shows Brand Advertising Muscle with New Mini-Sites
By Kate Kaye, The ClickZ Network, Dec 1, 2006

Direct response ad king Google may be hinting at creating more viable options for big brand advertisers, but Yahoo is already there. The company’s latest plan to build online environments dedicated to entertainment brands is no exception. Recognizing users often convene around TV shows, films and games, the portal has begun building content hubs centered on the most popular among them.

The publisher is shaking up the traditional branded entertainment model, however: It hasn’t solicited a cent from these companies to create its “brand universes.”

The first of a proposed hundred such mini-sites connects several disparate Yahoo properties and applications. Yahoo Games visitors will stumble upon a branded locale focused on all things Nintendo Wii, including a buyer’s guide, store locater, Ebay auctions, a message board and Wii-related Yahoo Answers posts.

Hi Bob,

Interesting comments you made there. I can understand you feeling that way, if you’ve experienced scams online. I have to. But in any sector there are going to be people who operate without honesty or integrity.

Mini-sites DO work!

I’m not sure about anyone else, who has commented on this blog, but for me, mini-sites has meant the difference between me paying my bills, winning customers and having a sustainable business and going broke. Period!

Jim, is one of many guys and gals who have been sharing the benefit of their online wisdom. Yes they’ve made money from it, but that’s what enterprise is all about. I’ve made money from their expertise and I jolly well hope they continue.

Are mini-sites crap? nope! Is there still a market for them? Yep! Can people with a good business idea benefit from mini-sites? Yes! Are there going to be Nah-Sayers, who have been burnt before and weren’t willing or able to put the time in, to make their online business work? You bethcha!

Bob, if you have an idea, and you feel there’s a market for it. Then test it with a mini-site, then test it with a fully blown website and see what results you get. You’ll get the answer, on whether mini-sites work.

I just hope you don’t maximise on your poverty, by dismissing a vehical (in the right hands) which can create, prosperity and abundance, for all that use it.

John )

Jim,

I am hoping Jim provides a price break for mini site creator v1.0 owners who wish to upgrade to 2.0. How about it, Jim?

I agree with Clint and others that the Mini-Site program is what gave me the genuine knowledge on how to build sites from scratch.
I now regularly made 1k a month online and am prepared to kick up to make the money my friend makes, which is in the thousands weekly. So I understand the skepticism because of what goes on with the Internet but you can’t hide your head in the sand. I don’t believe there is a better opportunity anywhere better than online.

One question to Jim though: Do we get the upgrade to the new version from the original? I’d love to see the improvments!

Peace!

I use mini site creator and all of your other ideas and I have always taken them very seriously. I like the no BS approach. It is true that big corporates and some companies do not use mini sites. However their purpose for having a site is different to you or I. They fall for the charm and glitz of their creative types. They do not use the site for a specific purpose, it is more often about having ‘a presence’.

I have built sites for other people and half the battle is getting them to understand that it does not matter how much flash they have, or how pretty it is from the customers point of view it is useless if it does not serve their purpose.

It is true that some of the ‘marketing’ copy that is online looks like a ransom note and many sites look very samey.

The key things that I have learned from you are:
How to actually write sites
How to focus the purpose of the site. ( too much choice causes inaction)
The nuts and bolts of all the processes that lead to being paid.
How to integrate video and audio.

You have never hidden anything as far as I can tell and in fact have probably gone beyond the call of duty on occasion. Do not stop whilst you have something to say. I for one would miss your presence.

Sometimes the basic graft is not sexy. BUT IT WORKS!
There are some new things that I could suggest but I will save them for a later date.
Keep being Mr Bolchy! Take care Jim

I will know more when i get my site built,right noww i’m still having trouble with my computer,i may have to send it back to HP again let you know how it works out,Bob Baker

I completely disagree…I took the mini-site course some time ago and the techniques I learned gave me a great start in my online business. I was not a quick start…I was more comfortable in the learning phase…but that certainly wasn’t Jims’ fault…fast forward to today and…I now make a great income doing what I love to do….thank you Jim…keep doing what your doing…There are scams out there but you are not included in that bunch.

Deb from your first Jimboat cruise

Jim, as they say in latin “illegitimi non carbarendum” (my latin spelling is poor)(rough translation “don’t let the b*stards get you down”) I purchased your v.1 course two years ago due to winding down of a multinational business I was general counsel for I did not have time to really start work on the course until recently. I hope to have the first of several sites up over the next few months, these are providing do it yourself help on asset protection, immigration, contracts and legal forms for small businesses and some other legal related site. Rather than charging $300 + per hour, I believe people will be interested in getting information from a successful atty w/20+ yrs experience for a fraction of the costs. These sites will put information that normally costs thousands into the hands of entrepreneurs and small businesses for under $100- forms and info they can do themselves and then have a local atty review for an hour’s worth of time, versus having them draft everything from scratch and costing thousands. As an attorney, can only work so many hours per day. By selling a useful information product at a lower price allows me to duplicate my knowledge through the information product.

Your course and information have saved me hundreds of hours of trying to figure it out myself – well worth the investment and also the inpiration for my legal products.

Thank you for a great product. I have purchased books and online info from others trying to find good practical information and yours is the only one that actually provides the nuts and bolts and not just hype. Bob – not me! – should move on and get an hourly job with benefits as he obviously lacks the entrepreneurial spirit.

Keep up the great work – your newsletters are also very helpful and serve as a great reminder to keep at it!

Thanks, Bob (not the complaining one!)

I guess, there are people who are skeptical about almost anything. I bought the first version of Jims website creator and like others out there I also, didn’t know how to create any kind of website. I will look into buying version 2.

Jim, keep up the good work! You have given us some really good resource and the mini site creator course is just one of them.

There are always a few who just like to complain. So, be it!

I bought mini site creator course…back in 2004. So, as for the “Bob” above. Dont knock it …till you try it and if you dont like it go somewhere else.

Bob, I do NOT consider myself a “sap” and personally decline your unflattering definition of strangers.

1. I agree with Tim on the spelling issues.
2. I guess it depends on how one defines success and the effectiveness of mini sites. They are not an end-all, be-all to success. I use them in conjunction with overall marketing tools.
3. Getting rich quick happens only to certain lucky souls at certain lucky times. The rest of us WORK for our success, sometimes over long periods.
4. Are you NOT familiar with Jim Edwards? I think he and his reputable INternationally known companies are successful. You may need to broaden your search of successful people using mini sites if you think others do not exist.
5. I work from home, just like millions of other Internet businesses that got fed up with corporate games. Besides, it’s just much more challenging and Fun for enterprising entrepreneurs.
6. Being a REAL company with a worldwide client base, you’d have to ask my clients if I provide REAL products and services. I have NEVER had a single product returned, so I guess my customers have found REAL value.
7. As for profits, my company helps my 9-member virtual staff to support their families. For me, that defines success.
8. Yes, people are looking for ways to improve their lives and income and, yes, taking a chance on the unknown is always risky business – a company, a product, someone else’s word. Some are new to Internet business, with little knowledge and little money to invest, but big dreams. I have faith that people find their way to their dreams. Isn’t Hope what it’s all about?
9. Bob, is this a JOKE? You Can’t be Serious!

I think your teaching is great as I haven’t done much with it
however keep up the good work.

Deep pockets don’t think “mini.” That’s one of the primary reasons that large corporations (what I assume “Bob” thinks of as “real”) don’t use mini-sites. They are more willing to spend their money (e.g. their stockholders’ money!) to do “image advertising”, then they are to spend the time in learning to create mini-sites.

As entrepreneurs we are interested in results. Therefore we use mini-sites. Large corporations are more interested in what people think of them than they are in actually selling a product.

If they were primarily interested in selling a product, they would spend the time and effort it takes to learn to create mini-sites. But they dont’ write compelling copy – they hire ad agencies to create a campaign for them, based on magazine and TV advertising. If they took the same amount of money and invested it in mini-sites – they would rock their world. And there’s too much invested in the status quo to do that.

Many of us who are now entrepreneurs were once a part of the “real” world. We know about the corner office image, the power suit and all of the other accoutrements that go into the image. It’s for those very reasons that our corner offices now overlook our own backyards and our power suits don’t require dry cleaning. And all of this – thanks to mini-sites.

If you don’t have your own suite of mini-sites, get them today! And you won’t find a better means of doing that than through Jim’s Mini-Site Creator course. Thousands of people have earned their freedom from the “real” world using those tools.

Jeanette

I think where this guy is coming from is the mass amount of alleged internet marketing guru’s who are out touting their expertise. These are probably the only sites the guy is seeing or looking at.

If a “crappy” site is selling “How to pour a concrete sidewalk” can money who am I to argue? If you had a $10 ebook on the site and sold 5 a month that’s $50 a month. God knows pouring concrete has not changed in 100 years so the book will never go out of style. Do I care how pretty the site is? No I want to know how to pour a concrete sidewalk. If I lived in Timbuk Two and there is no Home Depot or Lowes nearby to help me the an ebook on a minisite might be just the ticket. The $10 book does the job. The site might look like crap but I don’t care, it solves my problem.

I think it goes back to the content you have and you are selling. This guy obviously is looking at sites hyping crap but they problem even make money.

I do agree there are lots of mini-sites which sell internet marketing crap. I know, I have bought enough of the $5 ebooks I could “resell” and trashed them due to how bad they were.

I am someone who likes to see real numbers. Call me anal retentive.

I would like to know of the sites on Jim’s list, what the monthly revenue is, how many names they added, etc, etc. I don’t need to know which site is doing what, but maybe catorgize them and then give me numbers. I would love to have a idea of which categories of mini-sites do better than others.

To Bob “The Mini-Site Basher” & Big Jim,

Bob, you made the comment “Show me ONE nationally known, reputable company using mini-sites and I’ll STFU.”

I’m not sure if you’ve ever heard of The Motley Fool, but they’re a pretty large, multi-million dollar, nationally known company and they use mini-sites.

Here’s one you can check out: http://www.fool.com/shop/newsletters/18/index.htm

They have quite a few others as well.

Keep in mind, Jim’s course is designed for newbies so obviously, the sites they end up building out aren’t going to look nearly as slick as The Motley Fool’s one page mini-site but the same key elements are there:

Attention grabbing headline, product shot (info product by the way), testimonials from happy clients, a free or low cost trial, bonuses, strong call-to-action, and a lot of the other things that Jim’s course can teach you.

As far as what topics folks chose to build THEIR mini-sites around, I think you’d agree…it’s not Jim’s fault they chose topics that offended you.

Anyway, I hope that helps you Bob.

And Big Jim, personally I vote you keep up the great work and continue to teaching!

Side note to Big Jim: I still use the FSBO book I licensed from you all those years ago…people love it!

Hey Jim,

I bought the Mini-Site Creator in 2004. I didn’t open it for six maonths because I wanted something I could just do right away and not create something. I told myself I was too busy for that. I finally got around to using your techniques and was kicking my self for waiting. I lost six months of profits I believe I would have made using your advise. But Jim, I gotta tell ya, I’m waiting again. I want the newest version and any upgrades and I’m too busy again to look it up myself. Please send me anything that will enhance what I bought in 2004. BTW – Bob sounds like he wants something like “Done for You” and for that I recommend he go to Ken McCarthy’s system Seminar and get educated about the internet.
Thanks for all your advise, it works,
Hal

I’ll bet Bob was cashing his benefits cheque, when he thought that up!

Jim tell Bob and his cry baby ass to go somewhere else and whine we have better things to do then lower ourselves down to his level!
Why would everyone waste there time on Bob.Take a hike Bob!

I think “Bob” hasn’t tried a mini-site. I love them! They’re quick, easy and effective. You just don’t have to fill a website with tons of pages anymore — and if “Bob” is looking at just the big guys, he’s not listening to his own voice and finding what works for him. That’s the real test.

Thanks, Jim!

I think that mini-sites work, and since I’m a rank beginner, I’m not going to use myself as an example, or any of Jim’s sites either. That’s because I think a stronger point is made by showing someone else who’s successfully using the technique.

Instead Go to bly.com which is Bob Bly’s master site (he’s a well known author – 70 books) and copywriter. On his site, he also has the links to his various individual products which are set up as mini sites, so if you know Bob Bly’s name and want to see his products you can start there, or if your searching for a particular topic, you’ll hit the mini-site directly.

Bill Huddleston
Annandale, Virginia

Jim I think Bob is full of sh>>. You do a great job
teaching the Mini-Site. You are the only person I have
seen that wants to help us and does not gouge. I can’t
do the new v2.0 right now but if I get threw this
operation at (Johns Hopkins) on my head for trimers
I am going to try to do it.
Buddy R. Age

All I can say is Bob is full of crap. First he needs to try it himself and get a site up. Even if he does not make a lot of money, at the very least he gets valuable experience of site creation.

All I can say to Bob is get back to watching your Porn,mate. You probably won’t be able to do anything better on the internet, until you have Desire to really want to start an online business. That is the first ingredient. Then you need knowledge and thats where Jim comes in.

Keep up the good work, Jim

This poor sucker talks like a bob and for all we know behaves like a bob, blown all his brains away. Get a life son. Mini sites work and Jim’s Mini Site Creator is the most meticulous tutorial about the subject anywhere. It does everying claimed and much, much more …

Hi Jim,

Why is it that we all react to a negative, completely out of proportion?

If you give a speech, get 99 comments that it is excellent, and 1, which is negative, it is always the 1 that we worry about instead of valuing the positive feed back of the 99?

It is thanks to you Jim that I learned the basics of site building and with incredibly patient help from your team, set up my first Mini site, which is profitable (selling my E Book on Overcoming the Fear of Public Speaking)

http://www.feartofame.com

I have total respect and admiration for Jim and his team, being amongst the first to purchase Mini site Creator and a founding member of TNR.

So Bob, if you wanted to stir which I think seems to be your motive, then you have stirred an enormous amount of support for Jim Edwards, which he truly deserves.
(Probably not your intention?)

Regards

Roger Bourne

Melbourne
Australia

The mini-site is just a tool… like a brochure or mailer piece. The fact that all these tools may be used to promote crap doesn’t mean that the tools themselves are crap. Technology is content-neutral. Bob, it’s up to you to come up with a worthy purpose for a mini-site.

I agree with the earlier comment – I find it difficult to take someone seriously who can’t spell. Jim’s mini site creator product is GREAT – I learned so much from it that goes beyond just a mini site. Mini sites are like everything else on the web – there are ones with good info and others with bad info. But you can’t deny that Jim and others have made good money from them, and certainly Jim’s products are valuable. I don’t regret a single dollar I’ve spent with him. However, in my field I know there are mini sites selling e books and the information is TERRIBLE and in some cases actually dangerous. So, as with everything on the web – do your homework before buying, but if it’s got J. E.s name on it, you know it’s good stuff.

Bob,
I read your post and didn’t know whether to laugh of cry. I don’t think mini sites will ever work for you, so don’t waste your money and time. Also, don’t waste Jim’s time. Your attitude is so negative and combative that you’ll never learn anything about marketing. You should get a nice job with the Teamsters, or digging ditches. You don’t belong in any business that requires tact, persuasive abilities, or contact with the public.

In other words, Bob. You’re full of it and obviously thick headed. Just move on and let people who understand handle things.

Good luck digging ditches,(however, I’m sure there are some very nice ditch diggers.)
Pam Magnuson

I will certainly admit there is a lot of hype out there. However, the mini-site concept has really helped me. It has given me a way to make a plan for early retirement from a corporate job. I don’t expect to get rich quick. I expect to work and work hard to learn what I need to know. Then I expect to be able to enjoy what I do online and reap the benefits of that work. Well, BOB, if you are railing at all the hype, I understand your frustration: however, I would hate for you to miss out on a good chance to share something you are passionate about and benefit both yourself and other at the same time.

I have always heard “If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t true” But what I understand Jim to say with the MINI SITE Creator is that if you work hard, apply what you learn and be patient…it will work…

I believe this is true. Grab your mini-site and make it a success.

Hi Bob,

I Understand your frustration and you make a strong argument with your comment about all the ‘Hucksters” out there peddling their ‘useless crap’ for making money online. Lord knows there are too many of those all ready.

I for one use both full websites and mini sites. Jim is 100% accurate when it comes to using mini sites, as you really need to niche your products. One product – one site!

This is Internet Marketing 101.

Before you get ‘Butt Hurt’ at Jim, educate yourself a little more about online marketing and the correct way to advertise one’s products or services. There are a lot of really good products out there that only need a single page to sell the product and a 2nd page to collect the money.

Consider ‘The Secret’ movie. When they started, they were selling a single DVD. That’s it. No need for more than two pages.

I make a comfortable 6 figures online using both large websites and multiple mini sites for my books and teaching tools. Take a step back and listen to what Jim has to say, as I back his product 100% and he doesn’t even know who I am.

Dedicated to your success,
Mick Moore – The Internet Entrepreneur

I’ve just read the previous blogs and noticed “Bob” seems to have a dilemma. The awesome thing about online advertising is each method works. There is this great lesson I learned from a Master Guru in the network marketing industry..btw he is a multi-millionaire who started from true scratch.

ASK YOURSELF THIS:
Are mini-sites making some people money? Better yet are people who are TEACHABLE and PROPERLY taught (by Jim Edwards) how to create and bring in profits from their mini-sites making money? Indisputably, the answer is…YES!

If average people can take Jim’s teachings and techniques and develop a profitable mini-site than the only part of the equation that is the weak link is YOU or how you comprehend the information. This is not meant to bash or discourage you, but you may want to assess your abilities first before jumping on a proven technique or person!

As for the “STFU” comment…it seems as though you need a dictionary or a lesson in communication and PERHAPS Jim’s teaching are better left out of your “I-want-it-all-for-nothing-so-give-me-the-magic-EASY-button
-or-I-will-strike-you-in-rhetoric-amongst-your-piers-who-
obviously-have-no-clue-either” hands!! Good Luck Bob!

Jim-
My ENTIRE family uses your mini-site creator course… 4 generations:my Grandmother who uses mini-sites for her collectors dolls, my Mother who uses it for her MLM, myself who uses it for my young women ministry and my 2 children who are finishing up their ebooks in 2 micro niche’s…btw they are 9 and 12 years old. I also use your course as part of our homeschooling curriculum…it not only teaches my children the vast ocean of the internet, but proves that YOU can be an entrepreneur and live the life you were intended too!

We love you Jim!

I guess we all know there is No new fundamentals to marketing online it all has to start with Relationship building the moment the visitor hits the website,first you have to know who your audience is, know what they seek and then also know their purpose for being on your site. Knowing all this then lets you work toward meeting the needs of your target audience, But it also means taking things a step further and building a relationship with them. The ability to build a relationship with your visitors can be crucial to driving them through the persuasion process.

Think positive today it CAN Become your habit
All my best folks
Phillip Skinner

Dear Jim, I am going to respond to your (distress?) email asking us to comment on the posting by someone complaining that all the sample minisites in your minisite directory are self-promoting crap. Well, of course, some are, that is the nature of the internet. But it also throws up diamonds like you : who believe in what they say, are hugely experienced and even more importantly are WONDERFUL TEACHERS able to impart their knowledge to others. So, don’t let them get you down – carry on the good fight – for yourself, family (and son-in-law, we care for him and others caught in this senseless war) and all of us out there benefiting from your teachings. Voilà. Marite from London

Hello Jim,

Wow!! This Bob Guy is trying really hard to make Jim Edwards look BAD?. I Know for a fact Bob, That Jim Edwards is the real deal, and one of the most (HONEST) guy’s on the internet. How? because i also went through alot of money buying crap on the internet, until i came across Jim Edwards Sales Page, for the minisite creator1.0 version.

What Jim teaches and say’s is nothing but the truth, and it’s the best money my family has ever spent. Maybe Bob, You should put more effort into the minisite course that jim sells, and not waste all your time and efforts jumping the gun slandering the man. After i had finished the minisite course 1.0 and (applied everything what jim teaches), has now put alot more money in my bank account, and also has changed my life from the 9 to 5 job.

I work at home now, and it’s all because of Jim Edwards, and here is a BIG THANKYOU Jim!!. So does that make me a bad person to now?, or am i just a little money making (ministe Creator machine) that’s sucking in all of the gullable people’s money to now. No, I dont think so Bob, i know so. Why Because i (APPLIED) what jim teaches. PLEASE read that again Bob, APPLY, APPLY, APPLY, everything and all of what jim teaches.

Oh Also Bob, after finishing the Minisite Creator 1.0, I figured out one thing and i bet you want to know what that is hey bobby. Here it comes, Through the garden hose, You should BOB UP and KISS JIMS A… Because this man has sacrificed his time, and worked his A.. off, putting this course together for a fair price, for the good people that are going to put it to a good use. Also he has helped many a family’s budgets and life’s change.

P.S Have a nice future at your 9 to 5 job, slave Bob!!

In reference to “Bob’s” comment about Jim Edwards Mini Site Creator being a rip-off-get-rich-quick set up, on the one hand I understand Bob’s frustration with all the “sales letter get rich quick hype” that’s out there. But don’t ever think that Jim Edwards Mini Site course is a part of that scheme. Jim’s providing a tool, how people use it is up to them.

I would not know how to develop websites were it not for Jim’s course. Look beyond your nose and understand that a multi-page website is just single pages linked together. Use the Mini site for landing pages, affiliate pages, resource pages or whatever.

Yes you can make money Jim has proven it with legit ebooks, now if others abuse that or pervert it, that’s not Jim’s fault. He has done us a great service by showing Knuckle-heads like me the understanding of how websites and html work.

So back off, Bob, take your hate somewhere else and let Jim do what he is best at–showing us HOW to get things to work.
Duke Clarke

Bob,
It appears that you have the vehicle (mini-site)confused with the message.

It’s a lot easier to concentrate your efforts on selling one item per website, blog, article, etc., than to spread the reader’s concentration over more than one product. People lose concentration very quickly today and their thoughts will wander if confronted by too many options.

I think what gives mini-sites a bad name in your eyes is the type of products that people try to sell. You might say that about classified ads, full-blown ads, and tv ads as well.

It’s the product that’s being pushed, not the vehicle.

And as for you Jim Edwards, keep up the good work!

Excellent point Wade. Except as I pointed out in my previous comment, the tool creats mini-sites, which are overwhelmingly shams and scams etc. In my opinion, this severely ruins the usefulness of the tool for those who really need it and have something decent to sell.

Unfortunatley your logic is very similar to those who advocate selling assault rifles. Its not the rifle its how it’s used. Well sometimes, becasue of how something is used, it’s deleterious effects outweigh any benefits and people need to stop using it.

“Bob”,

Until you’re mature enough to actually post a link to a REAL site and use your REAL name, take your terrible attitude elsewhere.

You don’t want people to direct their feelings at you, yet you have no problem calling all the websites in Jim’s directory “crap” and doing it to others? Hypocritical.

But let’s get back to your original post. You said: “Show me ONE nationally known, reputable company using mini-sites and I’ll STFU.”

Well, you’ve had MANY people show you MORE than one reputable, big company using mini-sites. So now it’s time to “STFU” as you put it.

Jim – thanks again for posting the directory (and thanks to all of the students who actually put their sites up there…congratulations on taking action and DOING something positive online for yourselves and others!)

– Jay

Well “Bob” has resurfaced!

Welcome back

Since you now ask for a “spirit of conversation and dialog, not anger and virtiol (look it up Kevin .” I shall so respond accordingly in both tone and demeanor. Fair enough?

I must admit that I indeed had to look up the word
“virtiol” and found there was no such word! Imagine that! Shock! and Dismay!

I surmise that you actually meant to use the word “vitriol” (means in essence I used caustic, bitter speech (maybe with a pinch of rancor) in my response to “Bob.”

Damn straight I did, “Bob.” Your original post was anything but deleterious (means harmful, often in a subtle way.)

Your post taken verbatim drew exactly the most appropriate, correct and deserved response I gave you. Nothing less, nothing more Partner. There was nothing “subtle” about your first post — “You Called Down the Thunder & Hell Rides With Me” and, as they say in Louisiana “GAARRRONTEEED.”

But, shall we dispense with using the latest version of the “Verbal Advantage Tapes” (I have them too) and get down to a real conversation? Your latest posts are markedly different in tone, demeaner and style than your first post. I find that odd and curious. Intriguing though…

I’ll take you (for now) at your word and assume that you are, in fact, a “Right Honorable Fellow” that has been on the net since 1994, have had a net business since 1995.

(Note to fellow Subscribers: Stay with me on this, it’s about to get good!)

Ok, so you’ve been in business since 1995 on the net. Same business or multiple businesses? Successful? If so, why not share your wisdom with the rest of us? 13 years is a long time, longer even than Jim has…

In fact, you are probably a legend, seriously, 13 years successfully on the net? Can’t think of many that rank up there with ya!

And heck, on Google long before any of the rest of us, why you must know Al Gore personally? Bill Gates, any chance?

You are obviously an educated individual from posts 2 and 3. (Gang give Bob a break on the spelling most of the time, it’s not American (U.S.) English.)

But I detect a slight twinge of resentment (taking you at your word now) that somehow the internet has morphed beyond the “good old days” when the net “belonged” to the academians and the techies alone. Am I right?

Frustrating as hell to a “purist” such as yourself? The “hucksters” winning and you not… despite your being much more educated and sophisticated. Must be hard for sure.

13 years and watching Marketers come along and be successful, though you no doubt know much better than any of “them” what the potential of the net was/is?

The “glimmer” and “promice”– get out of here — you sound as if you’re a columnist for a hollywood celebrity rag…

Come on, “Bob.” Get real. No “Real Deals” Hide Period!

(Secret: it’s because they don’t hide that they become the real deals in the first place. Putting themselves “out there” and taking the shots, alas even from the unqualified.)

Nah, You Ain’t Gonna Make the No BS List, “Bob”

You might be sellin’ yourself, but I’m sure not buying it. And, as civilly as I can possibly state this –

“Bob,” you’re a nice “guy” and all, I’m certain, BUT You Damn Sure Didn’t PUT UP — Anything of any substance to your qualifications, and Absolutely NO PROOF so, pretty please with sugar on top — lose the arrogance and superiority first, apologize second (not to me, but to the others) and then go back to whence you came from… Oh, and then SHUT UP! You ain’t no Real Deal in your wildest dreams.

Aristocratically Elitest and Professorially Arrogant and Spot Off for certain, real deal — not a chance.

I don’t get the guy’s point. Wouldn’t it be the site owner that decides whether to sell quality product or “get-rich-quick crap”? There’s “crap” sold on plenty of other types of sales vehichles also. Sites don’t choose what’s sold on them – site owners do.

Bob I think you need to look at yourself,at what you are doing and let us others do what we want to do.There are lots of us new and not so new people out there hopeing to make it big one day.
Where do you get off telling us what we can do or not do.
I say GO Jim GO you are The BEST one to teach us.
Keith Adam

I don’t think you are full of crap just not particularly helpful to the truly unknowing. I needed more than the canned, offhand advice when I ran into difficulties. I just put the program away and did my own marketing plan. I don’t throw good money after bad anymore.

B. Brown

Jim,

I understand. Its your site and your blog you can do what you want. And you do provide a lot of value and info for free. I know it’s part of your overall marketing strategy and I have no problem with that.

But the point of having a blog, I thought was to stimulate discussion. So Bob started to change his tune, well isn’t that good? Maybe he was starting to “get it”. His latest comments I thought were worthy of discussion. They didn’t bash anybody and he’s not promoting anything.

I can understand your deleting his inflamatory posts and why you took the high ground and stayed out of the fray. But when he does start to make calm, reasonable points isn’t that the time to enter into a well reasoned debate?

Isn’t that the point of having a blog and dedicating it to a specific topic? If the only thing allowed on the blog are questions and “WOW Jim are you great” then why have a blog?

Respectfully,
Ronald

Jim,

Don’t worry this will be my last post since you will no doubt delete it anyway.

What you are REALLY worried about is that my points might be so good as to place a real dent in your mini-site software sales. Thats why you don’t want to debate me.

So instead, you fail to address the points I made and

OH LOOK OVER THERE EVERYONE AT THE COOL VIDEO—>

like a magician, misdirect everyone off this topic….

and like lemmings they go…..

BTW. Your unwillingness to address my points makes them no less valid. So I was a little controversial at first. Sure got the discussion going didn’t it? Its a technique, just like the techniques used on mini-sites.

I’m sure your intentions at helping people with few HTML skills are well intentioned. But creating a tool to make it even EASIER to create bad, evil, mini-sites (yes as well as good ones) is a BAD idea.

You can convince yourself that it’s the user not the tool just like assault rifle manufacturers or perveyors of mass e-mail distribution software do.

But thats just hiding from the truth. And your refusal to debate the issue casts a black cloud over everything else you espouse.

You should really take a few introspective moments and Really Truly think about that. If you are truly the good person I think you are, you’ll come around.

Unless of course its all about the money (which you say in your 2003 radio inteview available on Internet Archive its not)

So long and good luck.

Bob,

Do you realize how psycho you sound? You aren’t even living by your own words to SHUT UP once you were given proof (which you have been many times over). Be a man of your word at least.

Take your egotistical attitude elsewhere, and as you can see from the 99% of the RESPONSES to your original post…it’s time for you to go get help if you are going to keep spouting B.S. without backing it up.

Bob, here’s a non mini-site for you:
http://www.nami.org/

Grow up…

Jay

oh… i forgot to include the link to my site, which is an offline (and very real) business not about internet marketing: http://www.ampyourcashflow.com.